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Post by wwe80 on Feb 17, 2006 14:01:45 GMT -5
Fear God Today Proof that islam is the correct religion  here it says allah in arabic on our hand  A Catus once again saying allah  allah in arabic in the sky. You ate promissed next second so tuen now cause the grave wont save your ass. |
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Post by lhw on Feb 17, 2006 14:18:13 GMT -5
Pfft...similar things can be found for just about every religion on the planet. That doesn't constitute proof, and only fools would believe such.
In fact, there isn't proof that ANY religion is "the one." Belief stems from what you feel in your heart, and you cannot prove that to anyone. Sure, you can state how you feel, but so what? You could be lying.
The only "proof" anyone can have about their religion/god comes from what they feel in their heart...and this can not, I repeat, CAN NOT be shown to anyone else that it's "proof" of anything.
I love my mother, dearly. Yet I can't possibly prove it to anyone else. For all anyone else knows, I'm just going through the motions, and have my own agenda.
Besides, I thought you left...? If you're back just to stir up trouble, than you better thank Allah that I'm not a mod, because I'd have, as you so eloquently put it, "your ass" banned faster than you could ask for forgiveness.
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Post by hischild on Feb 17, 2006 15:09:35 GMT -5
*off this insane topic* Rich why did you change your name and what does it mean?
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Post by lostsoul on Feb 17, 2006 15:13:31 GMT -5
Yeh Rich? Oh yeh and WWE80 someone claimed they saw Jesus' face in a piece of toast  so doe sthat mean Jesus is real? Yet he is and we know it we dont need a piece of toast to tell us that. Thats what faith is about. Anyways historians know that Jesus was a man and that it cant be denied and if you want to stir up trouble again please get lost and go and find some people who really care. Yes you can have your own say but if you do it tio stir up trouble...not to good is it? |
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Post by lhw on Feb 17, 2006 15:15:24 GMT -5
It's the name I use when chatting on MSN.
A few years ago, I was doing a Bible study that caused me to go through my Strong's Concordance to look something up. When I was done, I decided to look up "Lord High Warlock." This was the end result.
Literally translated, it means "Lord High Sorcerer."
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Post by hischild on Feb 17, 2006 15:18:19 GMT -5
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Post by lostsoul on Feb 17, 2006 15:28:09 GMT -5
Technically shouldn't we fear our God anyway? Yes he is forever loving and he made us but he has such immense power and he is so big and he knows EVERYTHING so shouldn't we fear him? If we didn't he wouldn't be as God like as he is as we need someone to look up to and beleive is all powerful and in the christian mind thats God. I fear God, why shouldn't I? He could smite me down any second *looks over shoulder* see my point? Its like those two eople who cheated on God by lying to Him. They both died on the spot. Doesn't that make you fear God in one sense. Yet i still love Him as God and see hime as my 'Father' adn the one who protects us.
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Post by hischild on Feb 17, 2006 15:41:20 GMT -5
But if you fear God can you really love Him? I feared my earthly father and longed for his love but I am not sure that I ever really loved him. Our God though, yours and mine Hamster, calls us His children and asks that we love Him rather than fear Him.
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Post by Michael on Feb 17, 2006 15:45:11 GMT -5
What ever happened to religious tolerance? I do believe that this forum is religious tolerant and therefore, I think I can say that this would be totally against the "unwritten" rules. WWE 80, if you were smart, you wouldn't post such propaganda because you have many people here who dislike you (your posts are representing who you are).
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Post by lhw on Feb 17, 2006 15:46:38 GMT -5
We're not to fear Him, but rather His wrath. There's a difference. That's what's meant when, say, Psalms tell us to "fear God."
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Post by lostsoul on Feb 17, 2006 15:46:48 GMT -5
Yes i suppose so....i just think that even though he asks for us to love him and we do think about the Isralites in the desert didn't they fear God? Im not suprised after all those plagues in Egypt lol yeh i dont know im still young in faith and christianity  but im growing. |
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Post by hischild on Feb 17, 2006 15:49:43 GMT -5
Well Hamster the desert Isrealites were still under the Law now we have been bought with the price of Jesus' blood and we live by grace. We have been redeemed. Talk to your pastor/dad about this.
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Post by lostsoul on Feb 17, 2006 15:54:39 GMT -5
Yes Good point. Those laws are scary (well some of them) But the end of Exodus is boring and i fell asleep nearly  but theres too much detail in them so i skipped to Matthew and now thats a book to read. Jesus' life what a man i would of loved to live around Jesus' time where he lived. Imagine talking to Jesus...wow i would love it cant wait to go to heaven  |
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Post by lhw on Feb 17, 2006 15:55:24 GMT -5
Then why does Peter tell us to fear Him in 1Peter 2:17?? |
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Post by lostsoul on Feb 17, 2006 16:00:16 GMT -5
Yeh GC...does he? lol  only jokin but to be honest i love Christian worship music but i dont want to fear him i want to worship him especially the song: Days of Elijah what an ace song i love this topic to what a duscussion |
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Post by hischild on Feb 17, 2006 16:08:11 GMT -5
Read the rest of it. . . .
1 Peter 2
1Therefore, rid yourselves of all malice and all deceit, hypocrisy, envy, and slander of every kind. 2Like newborn babies, crave pure spiritual milk, so that by it you may grow up in your salvation, 3now that you have tasted that the Lord is good.
4As you come to him, the living Stone—rejected by men but chosen by God and precious to him— 5you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6For in Scripture it says:
"See, I lay a stone in Zion,
a chosen and precious cornerstone,
and the one who trusts in him
will never be put to shame."
7Now to you who believe, this stone is precious. But to those who do not believe,
"The stone the builders rejected
has become the capstone,
8and, "A stone that causes men to stumble
and a rock that makes them fall."
They stumble because they disobey the message—which is also what they were destined for.
9But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. 10Once you were not a people, but now you are the people of God; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.
11Dear friends, I urge you, as aliens and strangers in the world, to abstain from sinful desires, which war against your soul. 12Live such good lives among the pagans that, though they accuse you of doing wrong, they may see your good deeds and glorify God on the day he visits us.
13Submit yourselves for the Lord's sake to every authority instituted among men: whether to the king, as the supreme authority, 14or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right. 15For it is God's will that by doing good you should silence the ignorant talk of foolish men. 16Live as free men, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil; live as servants of God. 17Show proper respect to everyone: Love the brotherhood of believers, fear God, honor the king.
18Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh. 19For it is commendable if a man bears up under the pain of unjust suffering because he is conscious of God. 20But how is it to your credit if you receive a beating for doing wrong and endure it? But if you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God. 21To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps.
22"He committed no sin,
and no deceit was found in his mouth." 23When they hurled their insults at him, he did not retaliate; when he suffered, he made no threats. Instead, he entrusted himself to him who judges justly. 24He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; by his wounds you have been healed. 25For you were like sheep going astray, but now you have returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls.
When we disobey God, we do have reason to fear but we go to Him as children and ask for forgiveness and He forgives us. Are you afraid of your father? Sometimes you might be but it is because you know that you disobeyed and really what you are fearing is the punishment.
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Post by lhw on Feb 17, 2006 16:11:07 GMT -5
Pffft...way to take a good-hearted ribbing WAY too seriously. LOL
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Post by hischild on Feb 17, 2006 16:16:13 GMT -5
Rich I was ignoring you (knowing you like I do) but answering the Hamster's very real question.
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Post by lostsoul on Feb 17, 2006 16:16:55 GMT -5
wow too much still think Christian worship music is the best... |
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Post by matthew on Feb 17, 2006 16:18:36 GMT -5
We shouldn't mess God around, and take him for granted. I think that's what it means to fear him. To fear him in the OT sense is to recoginize that God is literally totally awesome. If we didn't have a tendancey to treat God badly then we wouldn't need to fear him. We would just love him.
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