Is god real?

[zibobi]

Everyone says god is real and their only proof is "god is real because the bible says so" or "my life turned around". But really, how do you know the bible is real? Because it says it is? If a drug dealer went around saying he was a police officer would you believe him? There's no evidence that a god exists and yet there is plenty of evidence suggesting evolution. I mean, we're got hard proof that we evolved from primitive creatures., we've discovered a 400 million year-old fish alive today, we've seen the KT boundary with our own eyes...i'm trying to believe in god but all religion brings us is a few empty promises and alot of wars and diversity.

[andrew]

Of course He's real! our bible tells us so, its thousands of years old how can it be wrong?

[cuffy]

MMmm , Just to Say i of course Belive aswell , But then again Would You Belive Everything You Read in lets say a (daily news paper) Because i dont think i would ... What i think is this .. IMO what has been wrote in the bible .... has had changes made to it over the years purely to suite certain situations , but the main story has stayed true to the bible scripts.

I hope this is does not offend anyone , after all We are All diffrent in terms of our own thoughts.

[zibobi]

All i'm saying is, it's likely either side is right. But only one side has produced proof. And when I say proof I mean just that. Where the bible's only defense is itself evolutionism can and has been proven true. It's not like anyone is lying about it to get at the christians or anyone else.

And toward my own defense, things like the arc that were found, is it not possible that whoever wrote the bible exaggerated the existing elements around them? I mean, people have aleays done that. Taking a building or boat or event that they've heard of, seen, or experienced...a tall mountain or an unexplored cave...people tend to use these things or at least use them for inspiration rather than pulling ideas out of the sky.

The bible says to believe...it says to have faith...but again, that doesn't make it true. In alot of ways you don't have to have proof to "believe" in something or have faith in it but in this particular category we've got an answer. Just as an example let's say I told you I bought you a car for your birthday. You want to believe that but there's another factor. You realize I couldn't possibly afford one. It's the same scenario here.

[dj]

ok let me ask you this. say you dont believe and God is real. Is that really a chance you want to take?

[zibobi]

It is, actually. What's the point of following a religion if you don't really believe in it? If you only do so out of fear?

[Michael]

Zibodi is right on that part as following a religion while not believing. The Bible says (yes, I read what you Zibodi) that God knows the heart of everyone. Do you think He would allow someone in His Kingdom if that followed Christianity while not believing in Him. No, he wouldn't. We're told in the Bible that we are to have the faith of a child to be able to walk through those gates. Other than repentance and forgiveness and believing that Jesus came to die for us and our sins, faith is a good part of Christianity. For one to follow, one must believe.

As far as saying the Bible's only proof is itself, you are wrong, Zibodi. Scientists have discovered unusual watermarks in heights such as Mt. St. Helens. How did those watermarks get there? By water. Remember the flood in Genesis? Yeah. Scientists have also found fish fossils and other water oriented creatures as high as Mt. St. Helens. Scientists say that the way the Grand Canyon was made was by glaciers. But what made the glaciers so huge to scrape against the earth with such force that the Grand Canyon was created? Scientists say an enormous flood caused a heat wave (global warming and all) which melted the ice and snow of the N&S Poles and the melted snow and ice caused an even greater flood. The remaining ice traveled through the flood and they left impressions in the earth and over time those impressions grew.

And also those who wrote the Bible were divinely inspired by God. Once again, if you don't believe in God you can't really believe this. So your question on that will go unanswered or you can continue believing that the Bible is an exaggerate truth.

I haven't made any of this up. It has been proven. Though mostly by scientists who were looking for things to prove the Bible's accuracy. So you can say that those proofs are biased.

All it really comes down to is faith. If you have no faith, you cannot believe. Therefore, you can't believe in God or in any god for that matter. God isn't for everyone. Not everyone will believe,sadly. It is your choice. To have faith and believe or not.

[40ringz]

I agree with all of you. God is SO real!!

[zibobi]

Thanks. I think I got my answer. Just glad to see some people can respect others' beliefs.

[Michael]

You're welcome. I'm glad that you found you're answer. Or hopefully that you did.

[chaos]

God is, of course real. Whether you beleive in him or not.

[chocolate]

I don't believe in god. He never helps anyone, and the only proof is a bible, that could be 100% lies...

If god created Adam and Eve and thats what started the human population think how may times they have to have children. When, on the other hand, we have proof of evolution- cave when where half monkey half human.

When you die your just going to be dead- be prepaired. (or atleast, that's what I think. I wish god was real though. Maybe if I read the bibel I can begin to believe...)

[Ifrit]

Nice, Chocolate. But let us try and not make this a debate. I agree with you on certain parts though.

[chocolate]

Sorry. Sometimes I get carried away in what I'm writing.

[zibobi]

Nice, Chocolate. But let us try and not make this a debate. I agree with you on certain parts though.

Was "debate" not the entire basis for the conversation?

Debate - a discussion, as of a public question in an assembly, involving opposing viewpoints

God is, of course real. Whether you beleive in him or not.

Nothing short of God himself could validate that statement.

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Edit: Perhaps it's time to lock this?

[Michael]

Thanks, Zibodi.